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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by TriangleSmoke, Jan 3, 2012.
Heard that, anybody got video?
Fuck me running. Chris Hero said dont watch the video that it's bad. Cheeseburger tried to comment and Hero fucking smoked him so that was fun.
I still havent looked for the video. I'm almost scared to. Someone else was fucked up pretty badly as well.
Also, for clarity because wrestling is weird:
That was gross. Glad he's ok. Also, didn't know the la parka la park thing. I loved La Parka in the old nitro days, the chairman of wcw.
This match might be really, really, really bad
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That Saudi show deserves nothing but the worst
Boy the crowd reception for cain was...ummm... not good.
No one knows who he is. And he looks out of shape, not imposing. I mean we all know Cain is a bad ass but he is nowhere the star Ronda or Brock was when they came in.
And he was never their level of star in MMA either, unfortunately for him.
His physique isn't doing him any favours either, definitely.
Realistically he should have stayed in AAA. He'd have been they're biggest star, and guy that could sell seats in America based on his name. But WWE backed up the brinks truck for him hoping he'd move the needle on Fox. Doesn't seem to be the case.
They're gonna have difficulty getting Cain over as a badass if they just waltz him around like a dad in his late 30s, without really establishing how much of a bad motherfucker he was with UFC clips killing Big Nog, JDS, Brock and Bigfoot etc. He wasn't ever a real "talker" per se, didn't have any perceivable charisma and didn't look like a goddamn killer like Soszynski or peak werewolf Arlovski, so it'll be leaning on WWE "creative" to help get him over, something they're so great at.
Y'all would know better than I would, but if the WWE really wanted Cain, wouldn't he benefit greatly from debuting on NXT? Make him this just killer, crushing folks. Seems the crowd at NXT would know him, pop for him, give him much needed in ring time, on the mic time, etc.
He's spent some time at the performance center, but yes if you wanted to build him up slowly that would be one way.
Or you could hot shot him to a main event that he's not ready for, to impress murderers
in white pajamas for your seasonal blood money show.
Cain from several points would be like a "last pick" if the WWE could choose a guy from that list.
As you say, Cain was never that good on the mic. His look was never that great. He was a damn good fighter, minus the constant injuries, likely caused to mindless training.
Arlovski wasn't that much of a good mic talker, but his look & highlights was incredible as you say.
Good on Cain for getting paid, but it wont last long. Not without massive improvements in a short time span.
Unfortunately for Cain, the guy you'd want him with is Heyman.
So basically, until even six months ago, that would've been the case. They wouldn't put somebody so raw and inexperienced in this situation, paying him that much money without possessing any palpable needle-moving value, in a big position immediately. Ronda was an outlier because she was a megastar and a legit draw, and the women's division is graded on a different curve than the men.
But because they're trying to kneecap the competition and they have these masters to serve in Saudi Arabia and with FOX on network, they're fast tracking everything to peak immediately, even if it's a historically proven to be bad idea. Realistically, both Riddle and Tom Lawlor are the better guys for the role.
Yea isn't that fucked? They hotshot Cain, meanwhile Riddle is tearing it up in front of 2000 people.
For this match to not look like a dumpster fire thanks to Cain, because we all know Brock can go and can carry Cain here, how does the match play out? A total squash of Brock? No way Cain gets squashed his first match out. This thing can't go over 5 minutes.
I think it's gonna look a lot like Goldberg/Lesnar