UFC 237: Namajunas vs Adrade Post Fight Discussion (1 Viewer)

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  • Champ Rose Namajunas vs. Jessica Andrade – for strawweight title
  • Jared Cannonier vs. Anderson Silva
  • Jose Aldo vs. Alex Volkanovski
  • Thiago Alves vs. Laureano Staropoli
  • Diego Ferreira vs. Francisco Trinaldo
PRELIMINARY CARD (ESPN, 8 p.m. ET)
  • Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Ryan Spann
  • Kurt Holobaugh vs. Thiago Moises
  • Irene Aldana vs. Bethe Correia
  • Clay Guida vs. B.J. Penn
PRELIMINARY CARD (ESPN+, 6:15 p.m. ET)
  • Luana Carolina vs. Priscila Cachoeira
  • Warlley Alves vs. Sergio Moraes
  • Raoni Barcelos vs. Carlos Quiroz
  • Viviane Araujo vs. Melissa Gatto



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The UFC 237 weigh-in results are below.

Main card (PPV at 10 p.m. ET)

Rose Namajunas (114.5) vs. Jessica Andrade (114.5)

Jared Cannonier (184.5) vs. Anderson Silva (185)

Jose Aldo (146) vs. Alexander Volkanovski (145.5)

Thiago Alves (170.5) vs. Laureano Staropoli (170.5)

Francisco Trinaldo (154.5) vs. Carlos Diego Ferreira (fight called off)

Undercard (ESPN at 8 p.m. ET)

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (203.5) vs. Ryan Spann (204)

Thiago Moises (155) vs. Kurt Holobaugh
 (154.5)

Irene Aldana (135.5) vs. Bethe Correia (141)

B.J. Penn (155.5) vs. Clay Guida (153.5)

Undercard (UFC Fight Pass at 6:15 p.m. ET)

Luana Carolina (124.5) vs. Priscila Cachoeira (125.5)

Warlley Alves (170) vs. Sergio Moraes (170)

Raoni Barcelos (135.5) vs. Carlos Huachin (135.5)

Talita Bernando (134.5) vs. Viviane Araujo (131)
 

Miz

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Anyone concerned about Rose in this fight?
Jessica Andrade -130
Rose Namajunas +110
Always. She is one of the few fighters that I like as a person. Not that I dislike other fighters as people. I just don’t know enough about them.
 

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Andrade's power is legit and the fight is in Brazil, so of course I am concerned. But I do think Rose wins.
That's the biggest problem. well 2. Andrade has that ole chute box brawl technique that can overwhelm people. and in Brazil the crowd will be WAY behind her.

I really don't want Rose to lose this.

Always. She is one of the few fighters that I like as a person. Not that I dislike other fighters as people. I just don’t know enough about them.
Exactly. me too.
 
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This card reeks. They should advertise this as a PSA. Get Sarah Mclachlan, "for only the price of 20 cups of coffee, you can help Dana White and espn realize their dreams of ripping stupid people off. Download espn+ today to help them strong arm you tomorrow. "
 

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Anderson Silva 1-5-1 in his last 7.
BJ Penn 1-8-1 in his last 10.

I really hate legends who were once the very top of their divisions to go out like this. Makes me think......

Chuck Liddell finished 1-6. Rashad Evans finished 0-5. Hendo finished 3-7.
 

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B.J. Penn insists he's here to reclaim UFC title, and it's hard not to cringe when he says it

The way he tells it, B.J. Penn regards himself as something of an inspirational figure.

Yes, he’s riding the longest losing streak in UFC history. And no, he hasn’t won a pro fight in nearly a decade. He’s the only person on the UFC 237 fight card who also fought at UFC 37 (where he beat Paul Creighton) and UFC 137 (where he was beaten by Nick Diaz).

But even now Penn still dreams of glory. That’s why he’s here, or so he told TSN’s Aaron Bronsteter this week.

“Of course I love fighting and this and that, but it would be crazy for me to sit here and think, ‘OK, I’m gonna go and get my ass kicked again.’ No, I believe in myself,” Penn said. “We’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go get the belt back. As crazy as it sounds to everybody else, I just want everybody to know, everybody out there, things might be hard? Don’t stop, keep going.”

This is the kind of advice that sounds good in a general sense, as bumper-sticker philosophy that no one can really disagree with in the broadest terms (you should probably not give up on, you know, life), but it is actually a terrible way of looking at Penn’s specific situation.

The fact is, professional cagefighting is the kind of thing that, eventually, one must stop doing. It’s just not a great idea to keep getting hit in the head indefinitely, especially as the body ages and the reflexes slow and nothing heals quite the way it did in your youth. You keep at this too long, and bad things will happen to you. We’ve seen it.

And the thing is, Penn’s seen it, too. He’s not dumb. He must know that there aren’t a lot of fighters who have snapped six-fight losing streaks at the age of 40 and then went on to become world champions.

So when he insists he’s here to get back on top and reclaim the UFC title belt, it’s a hard thing to watch. Does he expect us to believe that? Does he believe it, himself? Could he really be that detached from the reality that the rest of us are witnessing?

Penn was great once, an early visionary who showed us what was to come as this sport grew and evolved. He was a champion in two divisions, a dominant force in one, and he helped pave the way for the lighter weight classes that are now consistently the best source of talent in the sport.

But, as anyone who’s seen him fight in recent years knows, he’s not that guy anymore. Time has caught up to him. The sport itself seems to have passed him by. There are surely still some fighters he can beat, but he hasn’t found any of them in a very long time. If he still looks at himself and sees championship potential, he’s likely the only one.

Then again, there’s always the possibility that this is just Penn telling us what he thinks we need to hear. What else should he say? He’s hanging around to collect paychecks until the UFC has finally had enough of him? No, he’s here to be the best, just like everyone else. To say anything else would be to surrender to the inevitable decline.

Of course the flip side is almost more disheartening. What if he really does believe it? What if he cannot be dissuaded from this goal, and each loss only makes him more committed to pursuing more victories?

Most fighters, as much as they want to be the best, they get to a point where the facts of their performances and the realities of their aging bodies convince them that it’s not going to happen.

But Penn’s always been the uncommonly stubborn type. There were times when it was key to his success. Now it could keep him in this sport far past the point of any good ideas or positive outcomes. Maybe it already has.
 

CA_Gas Bag

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Fuck you BJ.

At least get ONE win this decade before talking about wanting to get the title back.





































Sorry to the BJ fans. Kinda.
 

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