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The Trans Discussion

Discussion in 'Politics and Religion' started by Mr. Cornute, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. unforgivn

    unforgivn Nunquam Fidelis

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    When you start passing laws that require me to address you the way you wish to be addressed, then it affects me.
     
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  2. Thamob

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    Yes but how? People are just asking for the respect. In my opinion
     
  3. unforgivn

    unforgivn Nunquam Fidelis

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    Asking for respect is fine. Using the force of law to demand my respect is not.
     
  4. Trodden

    Trodden Aggretsuko is my power animal

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    that would suggest there are laws that could be used against you 'demanding respect'

    those laws dont exist


    there is no law saying you have to be nice to anyone


    the only 'laws' out there have to do with employers

    this is America, you dont have to respect anything
     
  5. unforgivn

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    I understand, but such laws are already being passed in Canada, and people are genuinely pushing for them here. I don't think they'll ultimately be successful, but only because I think people will get pissed enough to stop them before it starts.
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    New York City, for example, already has ordinances in place that require landlords and employers to refer to people using their desired pronouns (including made up ones) or risk fines potentially as high as $250k.
     
  6. Trodden

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    yeah, those are so they cant be unfairly disqualified from jobs or homes because they are trans

    because those people are supposed to treat everyone equally based on qualifications, not qualifiers


    but that still doesnt mean anything to the average person


    if someone shouldnt be disqualified from a job or place to live based on religion, political affiliation, skin color, age, etc, why should them being trans matter or not?
     
  7. unforgivn

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    You didn't read my post if you think that law was about disqualifying people from jobs or whatnot.
     
  8. Trodden

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    I didnt say 'that law'

    I was referring to laws protecting the lgbtqwerty people
     
  9. unforgivn

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    I don't think anyone here has objected to those sorts of laws. Everyone deserves equal protection, and I don't know of anyone here who wants trans folks to be denied housing or gainful employment because of their identity.
     
  10. Trodden

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    just me

    if youre not 'Metal', youre a second class citizen to me
     
  11. unforgivn

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    Criiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge.

     
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  13. Miz

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    I offer my services!

    We had a person who identified as a girl in my daughters soccer league. They are young, so I’m not concerned, but I’m not sold on it for middle school or high school. Especially for a sport like wrestling. I tape college sports for a school. I was taping soccer and you have to be ready for the change in speed and the trajectory of the ball form the woman’s to the men’s game. There is a difference.
     
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  14. ATJ-Lucko

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    jesus christ that was horrible, i don't want to live in a world where your race is one of your defining traits. Who cares whats your race is, same with your gender and who you fuck.
     
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