Ted Cruz introduced a term limit bill

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  1. chrisc

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-term-limit-amendment-term-senate-2019-1
     
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  2. Dimson

    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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    Finally the Creepy One does something I can respect.
     
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  3. Kevo

    Kevo SMOKE BOMB!

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    Love that idea been screaming it for years.
     
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  4. Kano

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    He must be getting ready to move on to something else.
    Isn't that when these clowns introduce term limits.
     
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  5. Dimson

    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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    Haha. What I was thinking as well. He has to have an angle here.
     
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  6. chrisc

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    I’m sure he does, but I think it’s still for the best. It would make this his last term. He introduced a similar bill last year
     
  7. William Munny

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    I get the concept behind it, but there are already built in term limits, they are called "elections." Especially nowadays where more and more incumbents are losing primaries as well general elections.
     
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  8. chrisc

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    Um....
     
  9. ATJ-Lucko

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    the problem is once you get in then you have the money and power to stay in.

    I am for term limits being designed where you can only serve two terms, then you are out and must wait 4 or six years to run again.
    So you serve two 6 years terms as a senator you have to wait 12 years until you can run again, same would go for congress serve 2 four terms then wait 8 years. this would discourage politicians from having lifetime appointments and stop them from always having to fund raise.
     
  10. unforgivn

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    I would agree if it weren't for the fact that that the current political climate means that incumbents only ever get primaried by more politically extreme challengers.
     
  11. Poindexter

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    I agree with this.
     
  12. chrisc

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    Unless I’m mistaken, hasnt term limits been a big issue for both liberals and conservatives? Especially liberals with the idea of getting these old white men who have held seats for so long out? Elections are not even close to term limits
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    I can’t help but wonder if the lack of support is more about who’s proposing the bill than the bill itself
     
  13. Poindexter

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    The existing presidential term limits are appropriate. The limits for the Senate don't carry a similar weight for me. The argument that we get complacency and corruption from these life-time congress members is convincing, but that calls for significantly stricter legal responses, punitively speaking, in addition to a more educated and ethically-responsible electorate, IMO. The latter is difficult when certain sections of those in "public service" rely on and cater to the uneducated voters and the sentiment and pathos they embody.
     
  14. chrisc

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    Wouldn’t educated voters be even more of a reason for term limits?
     
  15. Poindexter

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    You'd have to explain that to me. My understanding is that educated voters would lead to more competent leadership and that the current time frames would allow for qualitatively-sound corrections to be made at election times.
     
  16. chrisc

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    Typo. I meant uneducated
     
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  17. ATJ-Lucko

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    if there were educated voters how would the GOP win any majorities.
     
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  18. chrisc

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    And there’s the ignorant comment! Freak wins again!
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    I voted for a Republican here in Florida. Are you saying I’m uneducated ?
     
  19. Kano

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    I didn't see where he said that.
     
  20. chrisc

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    He’s saying if voters were educated they wouldn’t vote Republican...
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    (This isn’t a new statement for him)
     

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