Josh Koscheck signs with Bellator (1 Viewer)

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Josh Koscheck fought in the UFC for a decade. During a run from 2009-2012 he went 5-1 losing only in a title fight to then welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre. However, he lost the next five fights in a row.

UFC president Dana White has given a series of aging fighters The Talk, including close friend Chuck Liddell, BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Forrest Griffin, and most recently Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. White tells them they can no longer fight, but offers them a desk job with the organization, far enough from head trauma, but close enough to the sport to be exciting.


In a recent appearance on the hafta-listen-to Submission Radio, Koscheck discussed his departure from the UFC, his signing with Bellator MMA, and said he had hoped the UFC would offer him a desk job.

"Even if I never fought again after that last contract, this last fight that I had, I wasn’t going to re sign with them, because it’s simple - you put 27 fights in, you give them 10 years of your life, you’d think that they would have stepped up to the game or stepped up to the plate and put a job offer in front of me or something to keep me involved with the UFC and the sport," he said. "But there was no talk of that. And so I decided that it was best for me to move on to Bellator anyway, because Scott Coker is so cool and I started my career on Spike TV and I would like to end it on Spike as well.”

“Look at the percentages of money that goes to the fighters. It's probably like less than five or ten percent, versus them getting ninety? Ninety percent of the money. Yeah, you know these fighters need to be taken care of. For example if I never got a contract with Bellator. What was my retirement like? Do I have a 401k with the UFC? Did I have a job with the UFC after I'm done? My name wasn't Chuck Liddell, Forrest Griffin or Matt Hughes, you know? Or Nogueira, you know? I think I've done more for the UFC than Nogueira without a doubt. And he gets a job. So where's the discretion there? Where does it stop? Who's to determine these types of things? Them. So there has to be somebody that represents the fighters.”

Koscheck said he did not have a conversation with White prior to his leaving.

“Nah. It was none of his business what I do with my career," he said. "So I knew he wasn’t stepping up to the plate, because he had gotten an offer from Bellator and he didn’t pick up the phone or have the courage to pick up the phone until, you know, his flop of a Reebok deal came out and that was the 'Josh Koscheck media day'. And my media day was bigger than his flopped Reebok deal, so he should actually be patting me on the back (laughs). 'Cause the day Reebok launched was a nightmare. Josh Koscheck was all over the news going over as far as signing with Bellator. So I did get a phone call that day actually from him, and needless to say it wasn’t the politest conversation between the both us.”

The fighter put some of the blame on the media for some of the problems in the sport.

“You know, it’s always been the handcuffs and the eight ball. It’s always been that way, so don’t fool yourselves," he said. "The media is partly to blame for this because you guys don’t step up and talk. You guys don’t tell the truth because you’ll get blackballed from the events and covering them, so that’s where it starts. It starts with the media speaking up and being truthful and covering it for the fighters, because the fighters are the most important thing. So when dealing with that organization its always been like that.

"It’s always been “oh hey, well sign this document. If else not, you’re getting kicked out” you know? I mean the history is all documented. If you go back and look at the history of - for example the videogame rights [THQ's UFC: Undisputed]. You know, it was all, if we don’t sign it we’re done, cancelled, 'X', kicked out. You know? So it’s all documented. Let’s just hope at some point this lawsuit that the UFC is under, this class action lawsuit can get to where it needs to be and the fighters can all get on board with this thing and put 'em right in their place for forcing them and forcing them to sign things that they didn’t want to sign.”

“We’ll be fighting Bellator in December. I don’t know if it’s the 11th or 12th. Whatever that Friday is of that week, that’s when I’m fighting, and I’m fighting in Fresno California.”
He has some valid points in revenue sharing and what not but I would have absolutely loved if the interviewer would have responded like this to Koscheck's question about why Nogueira got a talent development job and he didn't:

"Well, Nogueira is a legend and a class act. His tact, class and experience in developing younger fighters is paramount to what the UFC would want in an employee. You on the other hand have been a douche bag since day 1, when you, yourself were a younger fighter, only serving to torment, chastise and taunt other fighters and the UFC would be foolish to have you representing their brand when it comes to developing a younger fighter in how they should carry themselves."

THAT is the answer to his question.
 

Dirty

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Cmon Coy.

You know this should have just been added to the other thread.

Anyway.......The difference between him and ALL the other fighters he mentions is that people liked them. Chuck, Hughes, Penn, Nog, Griffin. I watched him win the NCAAs and had huge hopes for him and even stuck by as a fan too long just out of my own principles but he is just a total clown now.
 

Miz

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Have they said who he is fighting in December? Daley?

Not a fan but I hope he does well post fighting b/c I don't think he has much left. He said he didn't have a convo with White prior to his leaving. I think if he would have reached out then they could have found him something to do. Wonder if he owns any gyms? Probably.
 

Poindexter

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I'm torn on who I'd want to lose vs. Daley, but I would like to see Paulo smash Koscheck again.
 

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Paulo was signed by Bellator? And at this point Paulo aint beating anyone.
 

Fedorlei Gomipierre

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I really like Paulo Thiago, but he's busted as all hell at this juncture and looked like he was about 90 in cage years last time he fought. That said, Thaigo always comes across like a legit boss, given his dual professions, but he seems like he's tenuously held together by worn duct tape and toothpaste.
 

rivethead

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He has some valid points in revenue sharing and what not but I would have absolutely loved if the interviewer would have responded like this to Koscheck's question about why Nogueira got a talent development job and he didn't:

"Well, Nogueira is a legend and a class act. His tact, class and experience in developing younger fighters is paramount to what the UFC would want in an employee. You on the other hand have been a douche bag since day 1, when you, yourself were a younger fighter, only serving to torment, chastise and taunt other fighters and the UFC would be foolish to have you representing their brand when it comes to developing a younger fighter in how they should carry themselves."

THAT is the answer to his question.
Not to mention that Nog was a champ in PRIDE FC and an interim champ in the UFC.

And he never faked eye pokes.

Or got ring girls fired for pointing out that he faked eye pokes.

rh
 

Cat--Smasher

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Koscheck Bashes ‘Chicken Feed’ Reebok Pay And Says UFC Fighters Are ‘Slaves’
Now, via Koscheck’s Facebook page, we another rant from KOS. This time he compares the amount of money the deal pays out to fighters as ‘chicken feed’

Check out what he had to say:

“Chicken feed, considering all these fighters will have early arthritis and shorter lifespan than normal people. They have no future, no retirement, no benefits, and NO Health Insurance. Oh they have training injury insurance because (The Company) can’t make money off the fighters unless they are fighting. So let’s fix them up ASAP and get the slaves back to fighting so WE (Company) can make billions while we pay the fighters scraps…Shame! Fighters Association. Ali act. When will these fighters stand up?”
[DOUBLEPOST=1441894981,1441731323][/DOUBLEPOST]Dana White admits argument with Josh Koscheck almost got physical
"Listen, I'm not trying to run around and get into physical confrontations with the guys, but yea, I've had plenty of cases where the guys are like, 'How bout I come over there and kick your ass?' I could give you a lot [of examples]. Phil Baroni. Phil Baroni and I had a really good one.

"Josh Kocheck and I had a really good one a couple weeks ago. When you're the boss of 600 ultimate fighters, you know. Guys have threatened to get physical many times, but, you know, we work it out."
 

Cat--Smasher

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Bellator: Koscheck targeted for early-2016 debut, Daley possible in summer
This coming year could be an interesting one in Bellator for former UFC title challenger Josh Koscheck.

The welterweight, who signed with Bellator back in June after a 10-year run with the UFC, initially was expected to fight at Bellator 147 on Dec. 4, though Bellator officials today told MMAjunkie that January is the current plan.

Koscheck (17-10 MMA, 15-10 UFC), who joined the UFC after appearing on the first season of “The Ultimate Fighter” in 2005, went 15-10 in the UFC. But five straight losses, including four consecutive stoppage setbacks, ultimately halted his UFC run.

Now, he looks to regroup in Bellator, which has provided new life for a few notable UFC castoffs in recent years. In fact, one of them – former Koscheck opponent and rival Paul Daly (37-13-2 MMA, 3-0 BMMA) – could be a future opponent for “Kos.”

However, following this past weekend’s Bellator 144 event in Connecticut, Bellator President Scott Coker told MMAjunkie that Daley won’t be Koscheck’s first Bellator opponent.

“There’s no mistake: The big fight for Daley, in my mind, is him fighting Josh Koscheck,” he said. “Everyone wants to see that rematch.

“That’s one we’re going to try to put together in the summer of next year.”
 

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