Dana White open to booking Israel Adesanya vs. Jon Jones under the right circumstances

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Dana White open to booking Israel Adesanya vs. Jon Jones under the right circumstances
Israel Adesanya still has some work to do at middleweight, but he could eventually earn his way to a showdown with Jon Jones in the future.

That’s according to UFC president Dana White, who said it’s going to be awfully hard to ignore that clash of champions considering how badly both Adesanya and Jones have said they wanted to face off one day.

First things first, the New Zealand-based fighter from Nigeria has to get through two-time title challenger Yoel Romero in the UFC 248 main event on March 7 in Las Vegas.

“Adesanya’s going into a fight right now that makes no sense,” White told Jim Rome when asked about the middleweight champion’s upcoming schedule. “He called out Yoel Romero, who he does not have to fight. First of all, nobody’s asking for Yoel Romero. The exact opposite. Every guy who’s fought him will tell you — every time they hit Yoel Romero, it hurt them. This is true. This is fact. From world champions to top three guys in the world will tell you this about Romero.

“Adesanya calls him out and says ‘I feel like this is one of the baddest dudes in the world and my legacy will not be complete without fighting this guy first.’ He could totally wait a couple more months and fight Paulo Costa like he’s supposed to. He’s taking this fight.”

Costa was supposed to get the next shot at the gold after he edged out Romero in a razor-close decision but then had to undergo biceps surgery that will keep him sidelined until later this year.

Rather than sit and wait, Adesanya chose to fight Romero instead.

On paper, Romero is on a two-fight losing streak and he came up short in his two previous bids to become champion. His recent record doesn’t tell the entire story, however, as Romero could have easily earned wins against both Costa and former champion Robert Whittaker in the two fights he’s lost in a row.

Romero also holds knockout wins over a slew of former UFC champions including Chris Weidman, Luke Rockhold and Lyoto Machida. All that adds up to Romero getting the title shot even if he may not have earned it based on wins and losses alone.

If Adesanya is successful in that fight, and then finds a way to dispatch Costa, who is undefeated in his career with a perfect 13-0 record, then White will be forced to entertain his idea to move up to 205 pounds to challenge Jones.

“If he gets through [Romero] then gets through Paulo Costa, then he’s got Jon Jones out there, too, which is a very interesting fun fight that probably shouldn’t happen but I’ll probably let it [happen] if they want to,” White said.
Jon Jones: Israel Adesanya ‘scared’ to fight me, heavyweight title could be next
Jon Jones has a title defense coming up this weekend against Dominick Reyes, but it’s nearly impossible for him to escape questions about what’s next.

One of the most dominant fighters in UFC history, the 32-year-old light heavyweight has wiped out almost every contender in his own division, which is why middleweight champion Israel Adesanya and heavyweight king Stipe Miocic are a constant topic during interviews.

Jones definitely has heard more about Adesanya as of late. The two engaged in a very public war of words with the current 185-pound champion, who’s readying for his own fight on March 7 against Yoel Romero at UFC 248.

For all the talk about a potential showdown with “The Last Stylebender,” Jones isn’t convinced Adesanya really wants anything to do with the fight.

“At the end of the day, this isn’t K-1,” Jones said of Adesanya’s kickboxing background. “This isn’t whatever league he used to fight in. I’ve watched him stepping over here, and literally, I’ve watched him with his legs stiff. His swagger is exciting to the fans, but I know a thousand people like him. I grew up with people like him. He doesn’t impress me the way he impresses everyone else.

“He’s scared. That’s all it is. When he says you’ve got to respect the game or the game will humble you, he’s talking about not fighting me now or me beating his ass cause he’s scared. When you let a fighter like me know that you’re not prepared to fight me today and you wish you had another year to prepare and all that sh*t, it lets me know your mental state. That’s all I need to know.”

Adesanya’s argument against fighting Jones in the near term has largely come from a desire to defend the middleweight title several times before making the move up a division to challenge for a second UFC championship.

If that’s what Adesanya is claiming when hitting the pause button on the champion vs. champion fight, Jones isn’t buying it.

“If he feels he’s not cut out for the challenge now, if he honestly thinks I’m going to be somehow a weaker version of myself next year, he’s sadly mistaken,” Jones said. “I’m just now figuring out training camps and figuring out different ways of healing and recovery and all these things. My teammates are getting stronger. I’m only a purple belt in jiu-jitsu.

“If he thinks I’m getting slower and weaker, he’s sadly mistaken. He’s scared today. He’s made that very clear to the public. Nothing’s going to change next year.”

If Adesanya isn’t up for the challenge, Jones knows another champion who might be.

After teasing a move to heavyweight for several years, the UFC’s top ranked pound-for-pound fighter says that if all goes well against Reyes on Saturday night, a showdown with Stipe Miocic could be waiting in the wings.

“It’s definitely a possibility,” Jones told MMA Fighting when asked about potentially facing Miocic next. “One thing I know for sure, going up to heavyweight would inspire me on a different level, just because there would be so many elements that I’m unfamiliar with.

“Gaining weight. Staying lean and strong. Mainly the weight gaining and understanding how I’m going to perform, and how I’m going to move at the higher weight class.”

Those challenges would add a different layer to his preparation, but that’s what excites Jones about a fight with Miocic, who is a two-time UFC heavyweight champion with more defenses of his belt than any other fighter in the history of the division.

“I’ve been going against heavyweights my whole life,” Jones said. “My brother’s one of the best heavyweights in New York state wrestling history. I would wrestle him every day in high school. I’ve been getting my ass kicked by my older brother my whole life. I used to train with Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski, (and) so many great heavyweights for years. I’m very comfortable going against guys who are bigger and stronger than me.

“I guess all the questions I would have to answer are how am I going to do with the weight gain and all that type of stuff. There’s just a lot of factors that I’m not familiar with that would probably motivate me to push it hard and give my best energy.”
 

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Jon Jones plans to stay a ‘dream killer’ at 205 pounds, heavyweight move depends on fan demand
“At the end of the day, I feel like if it’s not broke don’t fix it,” Jones said during the UFC 247 athlete panel. “So much has been going right in the light heavyweight division. I feel like there’s always going to be great competition as long as guys are dreaming and aspiring to achieve great things. It’s going to be my job to stay where I’m at and be a dream killer in a way.

“I’ve got a lot more years in the light heavyweight division, but I’m also excited to challenge myself.”

The challenge of moving to heavyweight may depend on how much Jones’ supporters want to see him face the likes of Miocic, Francis Ngannou or different opponents from that division.

“I know at the end of the day, it’s about the fights,” Jones said. “It’s about giving the fans what they want. Unlike boxing, sometimes they hold off on great fights. Like [Floyd] Mayweather-[Manny] Pacquaio, that fight waited too long. I want to be a part of giving the fans what they want when they want it.

“If you guys are desiring me to go to the heavyweight division, then I think the UFC’s going to feel that demand and we’re going to make it happen.”

One thing that Jones disregarded when it came to the conversation about moving to heavyweight was the need for the second world title to cement his legacy as the greatest fighter of all time.

While many already believe Jones has set himself apart from every other mixed martial artist in history, he’s not going to be the one to make that call no matter how many belts he captures.

“That would be you guys’ opinion,” Jones said. “At the end of the day to be considered the best, it’s always going to be an opinion. I’ve just got to continue to strive to be in that conversation. When you think about the greatest fighter of all time, it’s a lot of different things that go into it. It can be skill set. It can be the way they carry themselves. It can be Conor McGregor, what a great businessman he is and what a good guy for the sport. It can be the way you give back to humanity.

“It can be so many things that makes you great. As long as I’m always in the conversation, I’m happy.”
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Jones wont be going up anytime soon but here are the current odds against Stipe if he did:

[DOUBLEPOST=1581652340,1581566705][/DOUBLEPOST]Manager Abe Kawa on Israel Adesanya's 'mind deal' to fight Jon Jones: 'There's no deal anywhere'
“Let’s be real, if Dana (White) comes out and says, ‘I want Izzy to fight Jon,’ he’s doing Izzy a disservice,” Kawa said. “It will never happen. It would have to happen when Izzy is really pushing, ‘I really want to fight Jon.’ I just don’t think it’s a fight that’s realistic anytime soon, at all. So talking about it is almost … – it’s just in our minds.”

Adesanya recent stated that he expects to eventually face Jones inside the octagon, saying he would “chase him down” if Jones moved up to heavyweight. But Kawa says “The Last Stylebender” vs. Jones might not stack up in the real world.

“I’m not going to get into the Jon Jones-Izzy thing,” he said. “I come from a real estate background, and in the real estate world, whenever you get excited and you have a deal, one of my mentors used to tell me all the time, it’s a ‘mind deal.’ I was like, ‘What’s a mind deal? What does that mean?’ He goes, ‘It’s only a deal in your mind. It’s not a deal anywhere else.’ So, in this case, I would say it’s a ‘mind deal.’ There’s no deal anywhere.”

While Kawa may have shot down the possibility of a Jones-Adesanya fight further down the line, he did offer an interesting scenario he believed could play out if Jones moves up to the heavyweight division, with Adesanya’s upcoming opponent – and Jones’ First Round Management stablemate – Yoel Romero eyeing a move up to 205 pounds.

“If (Jones) moves up to heavyweight, I can 100 percent say that I do see Yoel possibly going up to light heavyweight,” said Kawa. “I would think he would fare very well there. He trains with bigger guys now, he does very well against them – 185, though, is his home. He likes being there, and he makes the weight. Given time, given the circumstances, he always makes weight.

“He’s missed weight, I want to say, one time. The situation in Chicago was the commission, not him. So, the man makes weight, he loves 185. But if Jon goes up, 205 is an absolute possibility. I’d say (it’s a) 90-percent possibility that he goes up and challenges there for the light heavyweight belt.”

Before that scenario can play out, Romero has the chance to capture the UFC middleweight title when he takes on Adesanya at UFC 248 on March 7 in Las Vegas. It’s a matchup that sees Romero get a second shot at the undisputed belt, despite heading into the contest with back-to-back losses.

UFC president Dana White defended the booking of the matchup, saying Adesanya himself had called for the fight. While Kawa is understandably pleased to see his client land another title opportunity, he admitted he couldn’t comprehend why Adesanya would voluntarily put himself, and his title, on the line against the Cuban powerhouse.

“I’d say Izzy’s probably a little nuts just for calling out Yoel,” said Kawa. “I’m going to leave it at that.”
 

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Every time I hear from Jones via his posting, media quotes, etc., I realize how much I didn't miss hearing from him.
 

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Michael Bisping thinks Israel Adesanya could have the advantage on the feet against Jon Jones
“On the feet, they’d match up pretty well,” Bisping told Submission Radio. “I can’t see why Israel wouldn’t have at least an equal footing or potentially an advantage. We saw in (Jones’) last few fights he’s not invincible, he’s not superhuman – he is beatable. Everybody’s beatable, trust me. And Jon, the longer he does it, the longer he goes, it’s kind of a game of odds. At some point, someone’s going to beat him, and it seems to be happening more and more. I mean, the fight against Dominick Reyes – and I’m not trying to dump on Jon Jones – but I feel that Reyes won that fight.


“The one before, Thiago Santos, that was a close fight, and Thiago Santos had a bloody blown ACL from Round 1. The fight before that, Anthony Smith. So, you know, Jon isn’t unbeatable, and Adesanya is also undefeated. They’re both pretty undefeated in my eyes. It’s a great fight. I’d love to see it one day, but I’m not sure I would ever see Israel at heavyweight. That’s why I kind of laughed there, ’cause he’s certainly very tall. But he’s a light middleweight at the end of the day. So at heavyweight, he’s gonna have a big disadvantage there.”


Famous for his trash talk, Bisping can certainly appreciate how Adesanya continues to spark up the beef with Jones.


However, realistically speaking, Bisping doesn’t think the fight actually happens.


“I like what he’s doing with Jon Jones – I like what he’s doing,” Bisping said. “I don’t know if that fight will ever happen. It probably won’t. Not anytime soon. I think Jon’s talking about going up to heavyweight, so obviously that would put a barrier between them. But I like it. I certainly liked seeing Israel talk (expletive) about Jon Jones. It is funny. I just sit there in the morning eating my Corn Flakes and get a little chuckle out of it. So, yeah – he’s great, he’s great. I’m a big fan.


“He’s great – undefeated, which is very marketable. He looks good, he talks good, he fights good. The guy’s a superstar. He’s got all the qualities that the UFC are looking for in a superstar, and he fights great.”
 

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I have to go back to the original statement
Dana White open to booking Israel Adesanya vs. Jon Jones under the right circumstances
You mean allowing a known cheat to continually be flagged but not punished for testing positive for PEDs isn't enough special circumstances? you need more?
 

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I think Israel cuts Jon into tiny pieces on the feet & I think Jon knows that as well as anybody. Bones will charge across the cage for a take down as soon as the bell rings, if I’m Adesanya I’m practicing jump knees & lateral movement everyday.

As for the size difference, they are clearly built differently, same height but Jones has a much larger upper body, he would come in for a heavyweight fight probably around 230 pounds but I think even if Izzy tips the scales at 206 his power will still be there, enough to concern Jones, just the way Israel throws his hands generates way more power than most, his kinetic movement, how he plants his feet to throw, his footwork, his hip movement, his feints, it’s all exceptional.
IF this fight does happen they will both be dealing with problems they’ve never seen before.
 
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I think Israel cuts Jon into tiny pieces on the feet & I think Jon knows that as well as anybody. Bones will charge across the cage for a take down as soon as the bell rings, if I’m Adesanya I’m practicing jump knees & lateral movement everyday
I have to say, I don't think so. We've seen Adesanya wup some ass, I'll agree. But Jon Jones is a different animal altogether, and as much as I despise him for being all that's wrong with MMA, I can't even consider that a possibility without seeing it.

I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, and please please please let you be right. But when you put up the murderer's row of fighters Jon Jones has beaten I just don't see a skinny small guy going in and causing many problems. We know Jones is a wrestler and though his boxing might not be stellar he's got so fucking many other tools in his belt, I don't see him losing a fight for awhile. I'm not kidding when I say about him having approval to cheat. He's got a permanent 'get out of jail' pass.

just the mere fact that Jones has committed to heavyweight means he's got to be around 230 walking now (purely a guess) but Israel fights at 185 for shit's sake. He would need to add on 20lbs just to make LHW and doing it that fast I don't think he can. Does anyone know what he walks around at? last i heard I was thinking he didn't have a huge cut at middleweight. Am I wrong?
 

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Jon Jones admits to hiding from NAC under Jackson Wink cage, says marijuana use to blame
“Brother explain your titty
Woozy face
I was hiding from Nevada state Athletic Commission, not USADA and that was years ago.. I had just smoked a blunt and was afraid I would fail my test for weed
Man shrugging
that’s the actual truth
Grinning face with smiling eyes
Now everyone knows everyone.”
 

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Jon Jones admits to hiding from NAC under Jackson Wink cage, says marijuana use to blame

Wait the weed snitch smoked a blunt.

Still delusional.

I believe you Jon when you say you weren't hiding from USADA, Said no one ever.
 

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The amount of money that guy cost himself by refusing to grow up is hilarious.
 
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Sure stylebender can out strike him and possibly ko jones. But jones is so much larger and stronger I think he’d ragdoll Issy if he got a hold of him. Jones should be mobile enough to get a grip on him.

Although of course, I’d like to see Issy embarrass him and lump him up.
 

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