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chrisc

Ninja
You're missing the point. Askren could easily chalk it up to a puncher's chance win, and he's not. I wasn't referring to the whole shit talking thing. Countless fighters have played the "I just got caught" card.
I’m not missing the point. I think you have to look at the whole picture. When you’re cocky and talking shit like that, you have to eat your words when you lose. Especially with the controversy in his last fight. Askren has basically said Jorge was the better man that night and he doesn’t deserve a rematch against him. Well yeah. I’m sorry but you don’t get credit for saying/doing what you’re supposed to say. Especially, again, with his last fight.

I think it was Chris Rock who did a bit about people bragging for doing shit they’re supposed to do.
 

Ramma

Judo Throws Arouse Me
I’m not missing the point. I think you have to look at the whole picture. When you’re cocky and talking shit like that, you have to eat your words when you lose. Especially with the controversy in his last fight. Askren has basically said Jorge was the better man that night and he doesn’t deserve a rematch against him. Well yeah. I’m sorry but you don’t get credit for saying/doing what you’re supposed to say. Especially, again, with his last fight.

I think it was Chris Rock who did a bit about people bragging for doing shit they’re supposed to do.
Except plenty of shit talking fighters talk shit, lose, and have chosen to keep talking shit and make excuses. Acting like Askren has no other choice but to be humble is far from accurate. But, we will go in circles forever on this.
 

chrisc

Ninja
Except plenty of shit talking fighters talk shit, lose, and have chosen to keep talking shit and make excuses. Acting like Askren has no other choice but to be humble is far from accurate. But, we will go in circles forever on this.
Again, the whole situation. How many other fighters get beat up and win by a controversial ref stoppage, don’t give a rematch, then get knocked out in their next fight. Sure he could have said it was a fluke and called for a rematch. And he would have been ridiculed. Just because he’s a tool before the right doesn’t mean he gets some credit for not being a tool after the fight. Again, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t give people credit just for not being a shitty person. That’s kinda the bare minimum
 

Miz

mortality, ka, and the Tower
Again, the whole situation. How many other fighters get beat up and win by a controversial ref stoppage, don’t give a rematch, then get knocked out in their next fight. Sure he could have said it was a fluke and called for a rematch. And he would have been ridiculed. Just because he’s a tool before the right doesn’t mean he gets some credit for not being a tool after the fight. Again, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t give people credit just for not being a shitty person. That’s kinda the bare minimum
Okay Chris I’m not going to argue much, but what makes him a shifty person? That he talks shit to sell a fight? He is a family man. A two time Hodge winner. An Olympian. A former team mate of my friends. He is not a shitty person. I guess it’s all subjective, but I don’t see how he is a shitty person for speaking his mind. He has accomplished more in his life than most. I should probably just exit these threads. That would probably be smart cause I greatly consider you and another guy on here my friend. I just think a shitty person is a bit much. A man that beats his wife, or fucks around is a shitty person, imo. I don’t see how Askren is a shitty person, but I may be to personally involved.
 

chrisc

Ninja
Okay Chris I’m not going to argue much, but what makes him a shifty person? That he talks shit to sell a fight? He is a family man. A two time Hodge winner. An Olympian. A former team mate of my friends. He is not a shitty person. I guess it’s all subjective, but I don’t see how he is a shitty person for speaking his mind. He has accomplished more in his life than most. I should probably just exit these threads. That would probably be smart cause I greatly consider you and another guy on here my friend. I just think a shitty person is a bit much. A man that beats his wife, or fucks around is a shitty person, imo. I don’t see how Askren is a shitty person, but I may be to personally involved.
Maybe not a shitty person. Just a tool
[DOUBLEPOST=1563315908,1563315081][/DOUBLEPOST]Am I the only one who sees it like that? I mean, we’re giving a grown man credit simply for not being a shitty sportsman. Something we teach children
 

Miz

mortality, ka, and the Tower
Maybe not a shitty person. Just a tool
[DOUBLEPOST=1563315908,1563315081][/DOUBLEPOST]Am I the only one who sees it like that? I mean, we’re giving a grown man credit simply for not being a shitty sportsman. Something we teach children
I can handle tool.
 

Kevo

SMOKE BOMB!
Maybe not a shitty person. Just a tool
[DOUBLEPOST=1563315908,1563315081][/DOUBLEPOST]Am I the only one who sees it like that? I mean, we’re giving a grown man credit simply for not being a shitty sportsman. Something we teach children
I think they're giving a grown man credit for taking a loss like a man and not making excuses.
 

Kano

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Okay Chris I’m not going to argue much, but what makes him a shifty person? That he talks shit to sell a fight? He is a family man. A two time Hodge winner. An Olympian. A former team mate of my friends. He is not a shitty person. I guess it’s all subjective, but I don’t see how he is a shitty person for speaking his mind. He has accomplished more in his life than most. I should probably just exit these threads. That would probably be smart cause I greatly consider you and another guy on here my friend. I just think a shitty person is a bit much. A man that beats his wife, or fucks around is a shitty person, imo. I don’t see how Askren is a shitty person, but I may be to personally involved.
Well said. Askren is a class act.
 

Palma

I am chaos
I think they're giving a grown man credit for taking a loss like a man and not making excuses.
Kinda hard to act otherwise.
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Except plenty of shit talking fighters talk shit, lose, and have chosen to keep talking shit and make excuses. Acting like Askren has no other choice but to be humble is far from accurate. But, we will go in circles forever on this.
No, he really has no other choice. He was straight up destroyed legitimately. Highlight reel for life and the bad end or a UFC record that can stand for decades.

I'm not going to give him props for not talking shit after a decade of talking shit
 

Palma

I am chaos
You're missing the point. Askren could easily chalk it up to a puncher's chance win, and he's not. I wasn't referring to the whole shit talking thing. Countless fighters have played the "I just got caught" card.
You can't chalk it up to a punchers chance when it was obviously calculated and executed to perfection. He's a one dimensional MMA fight past his physical prime. End of story. His mouth is what kept him relevant and now it's time for him to fade away.
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But not impossible. See: Sonnen, Chael
Chael never lost a UFC fight that bad. No one has.
 

Palma

I am chaos
Okay Chris I’m not going to argue much, but what makes him a shifty person? That he talks shit to sell a fight? He is a family man. A two time Hodge winner. An Olympian. A former team mate of my friends. He is not a shitty person. I guess it’s all subjective, but I don’t see how he is a shitty person for speaking his mind. He has accomplished more in his life than most. I should probably just exit these threads. That would probably be smart cause I greatly consider you and another guy on here my friend. I just think a shitty person is a bit much. A man that beats his wife, or fucks around is a shitty person, imo. I don’t see how Askren is a shitty person, but I may be to personally involved.
He's not a shitty person, he's just a shitty MMA fighter. I can forgive him for that
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Well said. Askren is a class act.
Your standards are very low
 
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Miz

mortality, ka, and the Tower
He's not a shitty person, he's just a shitty MMA fighter. I can forgive him for that
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Your standards are very low
He is definitely not the number 1 in the world.
 

Kevo

SMOKE BOMB!
You can't chalk it up to a punchers chance when it was obviously calculated and executed to perfection. He's a one dimensional MMA fight past his physical prime. End of story. His mouth is what kept him relevant and now it's time for him to fade away.
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Chael never lost a UFC fight that bad. No one has.
No but being a sore loser isn't an impossible task no matter how badly you got your ass kicked
 

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