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  1. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    Really? I remember her being particularly good in her day
     
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  2. Fedorlei Gomipierre

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    I mean, I really don't want to get into the validity or voting criteria for the WWEHOF because it's a total work, but even in that loopy Vince vacuum, I can't imagine anybody pointing to the roughly three year WWE in-ring of Ivory being anything noteworthy aside from her being a "good hand" and even then, she'd rate in comparison to the bikini models and not as an actual worker lol.

    This would be like, if every Cooperstown class HAD TO have a player represented from every team at every position every year, after a while you're going to start running out of actual legit people. Their weird, easy to identify codas and token spots are so cringe.
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    Oh. Oh, dear lord.

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    Hey Bayley’s in her hometown. Insert Jerry Seinfeld sarcastic “Oh, this’ll turn out well”
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    Goddamn Bayley is booked to be suuuuuuch a fucking geek ffs lol
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    Lmao they had her win in her hometown and THATS the swerve lol. She worked the whole match selling her elbow and does her elbow drop, she can’t win even when she wins
     
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  3. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    She's no Ivory
     
  4. Fedorlei Gomipierre

    Fedorlei Gomipierre The IQ Poster Site Donor

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    Lol, Ivory would’ve tried to fight the writer, she’s a loon and eventually just let herself cash checks when RTC ended
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    Woof these new WWE onscreen graphics are briz. Just never cease to cringe at these Vince/Dunn kicks where they’re shoved down everyone’s throats and they’re never over and it takes a good four months past expiration before they clue in lol
     
  5. Bran

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    ESPN just found out Ivory was being inducted and tweeted out a congratulations to Victoria.
     
  6. Fedorlei Gomipierre

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    Gift that keeps on giving
     
  7. jesusatemyhotdog

    jesusatemyhotdog Welcome to the machine.

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    If everyone kicks out of Cenas finisher is it even a finisher.
     
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  9. Dimson

    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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    Only when it is used to bury a talent who got over on their own.
     
  10. Fedorlei Gomipierre

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    So, for an actual HOF that has standards and voting criteria based on merit and success in the industry (historical significance, drawing power, overall talent), that would be a no for Haku even though I love him.

    But for WWEHOF, there are zero standards aside from if you're feuding with Vince irl, if they can merch you out, if you're their yearly token visible minority/woman or if they can use you as a current roster tie-in, so sure why not lol.

    They also have weird contracts for HOF inductees under their legends deals that restrict what outside dates they can do and the pay for the HOF/Legends deal itself isn't great. So there've been guys who aren't marks for themselves who'd rather make more money on non-WWE OK'd signings and conventions, so there are some moving parts that a lot of people don't factor in. It's probably relaxed in recent years, but I remember guys going into the WWE HOF not being able to do the WrestleCon signings WM weekend, even though that convention pays a shitload more than Axxess, so there are weird WWE things.
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    Crews better get his shit in now, cuz when Lashley comes back, Vince is gonna book him as Bobby's Swaggle.
     
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  11. Bran

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    I really can’t wait for Lashley to come back. I hope they pay Brock and keep him around, if only for that feud
     
  12. Clark Kent

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    I read that haku bit someones nose off, and was a bad ass.
     
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  14. Dimson

    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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    Double pinned by two guys that he isn't even feuding with and we all know he's not winning that feud he is in either.
     
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  18. jesusatemyhotdog

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    This is awesome. Especially Iron Mike Sharpe - Maple Leaf Wrestling's greatest jobber:

     
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    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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  20. Fedorlei Gomipierre

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    There are some really compelling academic articles related to domestic violence in professional sports which suggest that the "zero tolerance" policy a lot of these leagues have could actually undermine DV victims and hinder future reports by spouses/significant others, when factoring in financial dependence on the alleged abuser as the primary breadwinner(think NFL wives for instance) and the awareness that contact with LE could turn everything in their lives upside-down on top of the very nuanced and complicated relationship between abuser and victim- one that is never as cut and dry as "leave him" when accounting for all the moving parts(co-dependence, children, fear of unknown, stigma just to name a few) .

    It's so messy from jump, but these situations tried outside of courts and LE are quite precarious because taking the moral high ground and looking for the PR/optics win in these situations is on the surface easy, but it fundamentally misunderstands that by cutting off a primary source of income could be grounds for a lot of women to think twice about reporting, which has the potential to place them in a position of "double victimization", whereby they're abused initially, and then they have to live with the strains and stresses of the fear/risk of suddenly losing their homes/financial security(again, this is especially so in big money leagues).
     
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