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Discussion in 'General MMA Forum' started by Sakara=Excitement, Aug 22, 2017.
You are correct.
I don't really know what his unenhanced talent level was.
Talent for taking drugs & escaping from auto wrecks unharmed.
That's a damn superpower!
Exactly. this reminds me so much of the guy that used to hold the record for most PED busts. Josh Barnett. and he never once admitted or accepted that he did it.
Jones must have called him and asked him how he managed it and still fought.
I say Josh used to be the most busted, but i THINK jones tied him. they're either tied now, or Josh might still be one up on the loser list.
I highly doubt the commission is going to let him slide at all this time anyway. I still say they'll go 4 years. but shit, money talks. I'v e been back and forth on what I think though.
This new excuse doesn't hold any water IMO. he's busted, straight up
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Fuck that bullshit and fuck you jon Jones!
They should accept the cocaine story then suspend him for 4 years for multiple failures for cocaine.
Fucking jon jones
I think what happened is Jones licked the ass of a stripper that someone had just done a line of coke cut with steroids off of, and thats how it got into his system
Funny thing is, this seems very plausible.
"Who the fuck put cocaine in my cialis?"
And steroids in my cocaine.
Jon’s not on PEDs.
Only cheaters and assholes take PEDS.
Jon’s problem is he has a disease. He’s a cocaine addict. We should pity the man for his disease.......Jones’ agent
The talent that destroyed Vera, Rampage, Machida, Shogun, Rashad, Vitor, texieria, Sonnen, Cormier 2x and the list goes on. That talent.
You are spelling steroids wrong.
He is a known cheater but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest most elite fighters were also dirty. He didn't rise to the top of a dirty sport with out being talented, regardless of how much steroids he took.
Fighters look night and day different on and off steroids. So no.
He DID rise to the top of a sport without being talented enough to get there. GSP for example did it clean. BJ Penn did it clean. Fedor did it clean. If he was talented enough to get there without steroids, why would he take them? The answer is, he couldn't.
I think it's foolish to give everyone who fought in PRIDE a free pass on PED speculation.
I don't recall ever seeing Fedor, Wandy, or CC ever tested randomly 15x leading up to a fight. Especially not with the same strict testing standards we are seeing today.
Fedor fought multiple times in the US and never tested positive. Wandy and CC eventually did. Nothing to indicate Fedor ever took drugs.
Jones may be the most athletically talented to ever compete in MMA, or at least have the best translation of athletic ability. Again, I don't think steroids win fights but they get you through training and recovery which is the basis for all of it. I have no doubt that Jones needed mental crutches but his physical ability isn't the result of needless. He's got a fluidity of motion that if you could bottle would make heroin look like Splenda.
And I have no doubt that all of the greats, ALL OF THEM, used performing enchanced drugs at one time or another. You get caught though it's on you and there is no excuse. I think it's entirely possible the less than all time greats did have clean careers.
In Pride, steroids were acceptable.
Then again, those were commission tests, were very easy to pass, and never random.
Not that I think Fedor necessarily juiced, but it's hard to say we know much for sure. Both Wandy and CC popped after USADA.