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Halloween - 2018

Discussion in 'Movie, TV, & Video Games' started by Sakara=Excitement, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. Sakara=Excitement

    Sakara=Excitement Live.Love.Learn Site Donor

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    Do you believe in the boogeyman? You should....

     
  2. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    Is that a sequel to the first one then?
     
  3. Ninjastix

    Ninjastix Damn Gina Site Donor

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    Seems to be, but I don't see reason to cut out 2.
     
  4. FrankieButNotEdgar

    FrankieButNotEdgar Well-Known Member Site Donor

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    It is and Danny Motherfucking McBride was one of the writers on it.

    Looks great too.
     
  5. Sakara=Excitement

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    Yes. This is the direct sequel to the first film.
     
  6. Kano

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    Looks good!
     
  7. Ninjastix

    Ninjastix Damn Gina Site Donor

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    That actually makes me not want to see it. Horror is a genre that benefits from less being more. Horror writers tend to think they need to be more clever than they're actually capable of to scare an audience. No one let's the fear build through atmosphere, it's all overt and forced.

    This looks like a good trailer but it's the music queues that have me interested. It does seem like it could be a little too up its own ass, especially with that opening sequence being in the outdoor rec area. I'm also not seeing the need of Michael to drop the teeth in the bathroom.

    But I'll afford the benefit of the doubt because Curtis is in it and looks to be a core component of the story, which is aces in my opinion.
     
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  8. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    I don’t know how much of McBride’s stuff you’ve seen, but I’d say atmosphere is a huge part of the works he’s had a creative hand in. Vice Principals, Eastbound & Down and Foot Fist Way all have a pretty strong minimalist feel, from casting to setting.

    I’d agree that I don’t know why we have to throw Halloween 2 out of canon, though
     
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  9. Trodden

    Trodden Aggretsuko is my power animal

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    Rather than waste time and money with this, they should make a fighting game with all horror monsters

    Michael Meyers, Freddy, Jason, Dracula, werewolf, mummy, Godzilla (to size of course), leatherface, predator, xenomorph, Frankenstein, Edward james olmos, etc
     
  10. Fedorlei Gomipierre

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    I've got a mixed-reaction on this one.

    If I'm judging off of David Gordon Green directing and the cast, I'm excited since his early indie days really showed a lot of cool tone and promise to transition to a genre film like this, similar to what Ti West showed with "House of the Devil", especially when you judge Carpenter's visual style of the era(Cundey as his DP) and influence on the modern mumblecore scene of filmmakers beyond genre geeks aping his scores.

    This trailer has a lot to like, some dope visuals and I'm totally fine with them doing a retcon on 4, 5 and 6 since that timeline makes Laurie obsolete (well, also dead) and Loomis becomes ludicrous even within slasher tropes and them putting hats on top of hats to try to "explain" Michael's evil is groan-y to the extreme lol. When you get to know the backstories on the BTS of 4-6, with pending writer's strikes and producer squabbles, those sequels are all over the map and just can't hang with what JC was gearing for with 1 and that's exactly why H2O went the route it did.

    My quibble here comes with them jumping off from the end of the first movie and ignoring the second movie, since that's still Carpenter's writing(and he did reshoots since the slasher deluge occurred between 1 & 2 and they had to correct course with more gore etc), and II is when they bring the sibling stuff together and it gives Michael motivation to keep specifically going after Laurie beyond "the night he came home", so this movie going forty years later with Laurie as merely the victim of babysitter killings and teases of some Sarah Connor-prep work feels unearned. IDK, I've grown to really like the second movie on its own and it's still Carpenter's writing, and the original Pt. 4 was initially supposed to start immediately following II, with them explaining how Loomis and Michael survive and it tracks, so it wasn't like they couldn't acknowledge 2. I'm not a fan of ignoring II.

    I personally dug the RZ movies, but just felt they didn't fit as "Halloween" movies and worked within the confines of his style and IMO, had they not been branded with this franchise and were just a new, standalone slasher from Rob, they would've been received far more favourably than they were(especially his sequel, which is grating AF and tries to bludgeon the audience with abrasive characters).
     
  11. Clark Kent

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    I thought it was a sequel to 2 and ignored everything past it. I thought in the trailer it showed a clipping of dr looms shooting michael and I thought that was in 2
     
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  12. Palma

    Palma I am chaos

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    Everything looks good other than Jamie Lee Curtis. Why not make her a creepy old woman or something other than a bad ass with a gun? More horror from the antagonists and less action from the protagonist is better for slasher films imo.

    Maybe the movie plays out differently than the preview makes it out to be
     
  13. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    I’m really looking forward to this and have been rewatching the series. 1 & 2 are pretty great, and 4 & 5 are way better than probably 99% of the parts 4 & 5 of just about any other horror series. 6 was shit, sure, but that was for a preposterous number of reasons.

    Just finished H2O and I think it holds up pretty well.

    Outside of them throwing out part two, the thing that kinda bugs me about the new one is that I can’t help but feel like it’s a remake of H2O and will tread similar ground.

    Will be watching Resurrection in the coming days, along with the Zombie flicks. Don’t remember liking any of them much, but we’ll see.

    I really liked the workprint for Zombie’s remake, but didn’t care for the theatrical cut. The bluray collection I’ve been watching says it’s the Director’s cut, so I’ll see if I can notice anything different from the other two versions I saw, though I suspect I’ll just be seeing more gore.

    Still, very much looking forward to this new one and hope that McBride can follow Jordan Peele’s example and churn out a damn fine horror film
     
  14. Ninjastix

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    I am concerned that this was called a "metoo" movie. Not because I fall on either side of any supposed discussion or because a filmmaker can't have a message. But because I just want a basic fucking horror film where the threat is credible before anything else and where everyone is vulnerable. Men and women alike. Fighting to survive isn't a gender empowerment discussion. Funny how societal roles dissapate when you may get stabbed to death by a man in a mask for no reason.

    I never felt like the original Halloween had a message. It was more a film making project than a statement. I do wish for a return to horror filmmaking that does more with less. If any series could be that, Halloween would be atop my list. I'm just concerned it's gonna be H20 all over again.
     
  15. Dimson

    Dimson Your tears don't fall...

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    H2O was garbage.
     
  16. Bran

    Bran The wolf dead.

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    Loved it
     
  17. nbm02ss

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    Going to see it Saturday. Can't wait.
     
  18. Ninjastix

    Ninjastix Damn Gina Site Donor

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    1. Halloween
    2. Halloween 2
    3. Halloween 4
    4. Halloween 2018

    The rest ain't worth ranking.
     
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  19. Clark Kent

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    I loved it, just didn’t like the dr thing, made no sense to me. It’s like they edited out a few scenes to explain it more.
     
  20. Ninjastix

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    I definitely didn't like it but I didn't hate it. It started very strong if silly. It had a really strong, believable emotional core to it that it completely abandoned in the last third of the film.

    Ultimately it didn't feel like a Halloween film even though Michael was done very well this time. The forced comedy, the lack of atmosphere, the choice to not use the score to build tension, the odd camera perspectives.. it seemed to vaciliate between being 2 and half different movies. Seems like the victims of too many cooks. The first third really leads me to believe that was the case.

    The left turn the film makes hurts it. The lack of addressing police responses and the way no one is seemingly in the know that Michael Myers is lose hurts the film. There are some really great slasher scenes that are buttressed by a schizophrenic film. I don't know if this is due to editing conflicts or re-writes, but the focus is lost and the subsequently the film goes from some believeable and potentially redeeming to shit. Not unwatchable shit. Not M. Night shit. But shit.

    Very disappointing but honestly I didn't have high expectations. It was better than the Zombie remake and the H2O series. It's not better than 4. 4 is the definitive remake movie and 2 is a true sequel.
     

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