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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by FrankieButNotEdgar, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Amlap

    Amlap Could have won state

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    Think they'll win two and lose one. Belichick and Brady will retire together after that.
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    Honestly, i think 15-18 million a season is a good price for him. Especially now, but his talent is greatly overrated. He isn't worth 20 to 30 million a season. You're right, they wouldn't have the team around him to win championships if he was the highest paid player in the league, and he doesn't have the talent or athletic ability to carry any team on his own.

    This "Greatest Quarterback in history" claim is a joke. First pass was an Int and never passed for a touchdown. He had one good drive against an above average (certainly not elite) defense.

    If Brady was on the Browns he'd never win anything. He's the perfect game managing qb for that offense, and has mastered Belichick's system over a decade and a half, and they've given him great protection and a consistent running game. He also has a solid defense and special teams game to keep every game competitive.

    But paying him 20 to 30 million a season would end his career
     
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  2. MongoloidByChoke

    MongoloidByChoke Well-Known Member

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    So the first pass he throws is an INT and that’s one of your reasons why the the claim that he is the greatest QB of all time is a joke. You do not think his stats speak loudly over his career? Also the, “ what if’s” are just that. He has won he has been at the top of the game and he is the best that has played that position. The excuse that his team is what wins it is garbage in my eyes. Not because that it’s not a valid statement but because, yah that’s what you try to achieve as a team. Work as a team to win all these titles. The fact that he has been able to lead these teams with these coaches and have to manage the way he does on the field, nearly flawlessly says enough in itself. I would venture to guess if you asked people in the game and out, assuming they were putting their hate for him on the back burner, they are going to take brady everytime to lead their team to win on the last drive of any game. No one else at his position manages a game like he does. He is a genius IMO when it comes to scanning defenses and finding the flaw.
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    Also your Browns comment, he won’t win on the browns because no one will win shit with the Browns. There is an aspect of having the rest of the team knowing what the fuck they are doing. Basically you can’t take credit away from a QB because his team is better coached and in most cases with much less talent then other teams. No one can doubt football is a team sport but as a QB you shouldn’t be only considered good or great if you win only on piss poor teams that are coached like dog shit.
     
  3. Miz

    Miz mortality, ka, and the Tower

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    Doesn’t matter how it happened. The man has six super bowl wins.
     
  4. Amlap

    Amlap Could have won state

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    Lol, are you at the emotional part of your day?

    He's not the greatest quarterback of all time, he's not even the best quarterback of his time. He's the quarterback of the best team. He's a top quarterback for sure, but he's not the best or the greatest.
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    If you go to the superbowl every season you're going to win.
     
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  5. Miz

    Miz mortality, ka, and the Tower

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    I think there are quarterbacks that can do more/different things, but they haven’t won 6 Super Bowls. Winning matters, right? No way Brady throws a no look pass twenty yards down the field while on the run, but he has six rings. I think the most important thing you can do in a season is win a title. Brady has done that better than anyone.
     
  6. FrankieButNotEdgar

    FrankieButNotEdgar Well-Known Member Site Donor

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    Let's not forget that 5 of the 6 Pats Super Bowl had some sort of cheating controversy over them. Spygate, Deflategate, and then Edelman being MVP same year he was suspended for PEDS. Cheetahs!
     
  7. Amlap

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    No other quarterback is on the Patriots.

    Why stop with Brady? Gronkowski is the Best TE season because they won the superbowl. Edelman is the best WR because they won. Gostkowski is the best kicker in the NFL because he made two fieldgoals and won the superbowl.
     
  8. MongoloidByChoke

    MongoloidByChoke Well-Known Member

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    Nah I don’t get emotional. I just disagree that’s all. I may be a bit tired, lots of hours this week. Loottttts
     
  9. Amlap

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    Ehh, I'm not getting into that. Everyone cheats.

    I'm just saying that just because they are the greatest team doesn't mean the positional players are the greatest.
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    Lol, okay cool. My opinion isn't popular, but I have my reasoning.

    Personally I'd rather be a champion than the most talented.
     
  10. MongoloidByChoke

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    Edelman is not the best nor is he a hall of famer. He has the same stats as dion branch. Gronk is one of the best TE to play the game without a doubt. Gostkowski is a damn good kicker but not the best. Stats... along with winning will make you the best.
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    Well @FrankieButNotEdgar is neither so now what ya got?
     
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  11. Miz

    Miz mortality, ka, and the Tower

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    Definitely not the most talented. I think talent is only a part of greatness, right? He definitely landed in the ideal situation, but that’s true of most great players, right? No Scottie Pippen and Jordan doesn’t have 6 championships. Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback, but he isn’t the greatest, right? I might be wrong. I’m not saying im accurate in my assessment.
     
  12. Kevo

    Kevo SMOKE BOMB!

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    If you don't believe Tom Brady is the goat qb, then you have to believe bb is the goat coach.
     
  13. Amlap

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    I do
     
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  14. FrankieButNotEdgar

    FrankieButNotEdgar Well-Known Member Site Donor

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    I believe Belichick is the greatest coach, by far. You have to give Brady credit as being the greatest QB of all time because of his accomplishments. Two things can be true though. I believe that had Brady not been with the Patriots and had been on a less superior team, he wouldn't have achieved nearly as much. I believe that had Belichick had Rodgers, they would have been unstoppable.
     
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  15. Nebraska

    Nebraska Poindexter For President NFL S.P. Champion Site Donor

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    Coy: “I’d rather have championships instead of money.”

    Also Coy: “I would take Rodgers over Brady.”
     
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  16. chrisc

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    I’ve honeslty never understood the whole “well you’re making enough already.”

    Anyone can look up how much I make, by no means am I rich but I love comfortably. Should I not accept my next raise to help the government out?
     
  17. Nebraska

    Nebraska Poindexter For President NFL S.P. Champion Site Donor

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    Good for you. 2019. What’s his name?
     
  18. chrisc

    chrisc Ninja

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    So you can stalk him like you did the last one? You must really like getting arrested
     
  19. Nebraska

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    Just want to make sure he sees the cornbread and ketchup video so he knows where that mouth has been.
     
  20. chrisc

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    Envy gets you no where
     

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